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>> defense secretary james mattis recently deliver the keynote address at the annual reagan national defense forum at the ronald reagan presidential library in california. after thespeech, he sat down for a conversation with) fox news .>>. >> this morning marks and anniversary for our keynote speaker. exactly 2 years ago today, president trump announced to the nation 's intention to nominate james mattis as our secretary of defense. having met and interviewed with the president just 10 days prior, time and events no doubt move swiftly for the retired marine four-star. the president very first,. while secretary mattis was not yet a household name, he
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was by then a living legend in the marine corps and elsewhere in the bath military community. now, why is that? in part, stems from the fact that on the time he was commissioned as a lieutenant in 1972 until he retired as a matter of the us central command in 2013, those you lead were challenged body and mind. body in that they were superbly trained to facilitate the killing of the enemy 24 seven. my in that it was critical for every soldier under his command and i quote general matters here to engage your plane before you engage the enemy. >> having studied centuries of battlefield history, and the spartans to the samurai to thecomanche , he struck me
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for an intellectual rigor and the poor. the study of military strategy and the culture and history of a particular region or theater of combat were as important as the weapons one carriedthe war . so a deeply red scholar and soldier keynotes for us today. he's written two books as well. one in particular has literally come to define the practice of modern-day warfare. his coauthorship with david patrick's and the original 2006 field manual on counterinsurgency operations has evolved into the first and most complete document on war fighting theory in use by american forces today.he was a practitioner of that guidance as well. when the order came from washington to deploy forces for the invasion of
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afghanistan in 2001, general mattis led the deepest insertion of marines into a combat zone in us history . in 2003, as the ground commander in, he led the 20,000 troops for the first marine division 500 miles over 17 days, the longest sustained mark in marine corps history. >> earlier this year, the white house employed the united states presently engaged in open-ended hostilities in seven countries. from the observation posts along the syrian turkish border to operational support of us customs agents facing caravans from mexico and numerous battles against the caliban, the hot connie network, al qaeda and the islamic state in between, the united states military is in the fight.
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the pentagon's budget is the largest the world has ever known. what better time to have secretary mattis at the helm. deeply fought for an extremely aggressive, honest, self disciplined. the rare combination of confidence and humility. the prominent biography of his life just published reveals its title the essence of the man. no better friend, no worse enemy. ladies and gentlemen, welcome the 26 united states of defense, james mattis. [applause] >>. [applause]
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>> thanks a lot. we will see if you still clap when i get done talking here. that could be the real trick and i would tell you i have never heard in this beautiful corner of america is probably appropriate thati hear the best rendition of our national anthem i've ever heard in my life . >> i would just tell you i couldn't sing or dance so i ended up in the infantry myself. but we need people that can bring the spirit out in all of us and there's something about music andthere's something about that anthem still draws us all back together , no matter what the issues of the day are. and in that regard, i would just say that your in the valley where the spirit of the giver lives on, we cannot
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begin here today without acknowledging the passing of that truepatriots , president george bush. he certainly in the department of defense, we saw him as one of our own obvious reasons, one of the youngest aviators in our history, a decorated for valor, a lawyer and a statesman and he dedicated more than four decades of his life to public service. he taught us how to live a life without regret. he was always enthusiastic and always out to give 100 percent but more importantly for all of us who need role models and i think that is the human condition, he always put others first whether it was his family, his shipmates see, his country, he always put others first so we joined president bush's family, all of us in the department of defense, i'm sure all of youin
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remembering his unwavering service to our nation . we can't gather here in semi valley without recognizing the common citizens of this valley and what you've done for those who had their homes burned down and all the evacuees were forced out of their home, this is a very generous part of the country and the reminder that we in america have never left everything to our governments . we always hold together in small towns, large cities to look out for those who are on the margins of those who have been unsettled, that sort of thing. it's a reminder that when tough times come, americans hold together, we don't pull apart. we see every challenge as an opportunity, certainly to heed the better angels of our nature and in that it's a healthy reminder as we gather beside an ocean that is named for peace to remember and fulfill in our time resident reagan's victim of peace through strength. so to all the members of
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congress who join us here today, to our valued allies who are represented here today , the industry leaders and members of the press, i love you. to all the military personnel who are here in the veterans, thank you for letting me share a few minutes with you here today. as an american i proudly note the diversity of fiercely held views present here today, a patchwork worthy of our country. i know also our shared commitment to protecting our experiment in democracy. a common thread hitting us together across state lines and across party lines. and make no mistake, our experiment in democracy needs protecting in this world that's addressed by george schultz as being a wash in change where we can all see the storm clouds loom on the horizon. >> go back in time two years,
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we were fighting overseas, get automatic spending caps had resulted in the smallest us military since 1940. we had the munitions shortages, aircraft that were unable to fly, chips too often unable to sail and an aging nuclear deterrence and an eroding technological edge over our adversaries in an era of renewed brainpower competition. that's a sobering reality yet nothing under the sun is new to us and we look to our history and we can see how president reagan created an understrength military in his time and with such titans as george schultz, the acted to restore america's strength. >> one year ago we released our national defense friday. it was nested inside president trumps national security strategy.
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and to do the same thing that president reagan had done, we mapped out our emergence from strategic atrophy to expand the competitive space of our adversaries and rebuild our military advantage to three lines of effort, first, was to rebuild the legality of our ports, making it more agile, more innovative. second, we wanted to strengthen and expand our robust constellation of allies and partners and third, select with all of you in the eyes so i could look congress in the eye, and say that we are spending the money you are giving us as it should be read we needed to reform our department for performance, affordability and accountability and today i hope you the american people and accounting of that strategy and how we will ensure our successors have the tools to deter war in the future. none of our work would be possible without the political courage of our
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congress. amid competing priorities, our house and senate passed a bipartisan but to give our troops what they needed in the upcoming fiscal year of the fy 18. for the first time in 10 years, our congress passed on time authorizations and the appropriation for fiscal year 19. 87 percent of the house and senate supported that authorization bill named again for a naval aviator, john mccain 's legacy and doors. >> so the american center held together on national security and numerous members of our congress took a little rest voting for our record budget in an election year, from increasing active-duty strength by 15,000 troops to getting a 2.6 percent pay raise to our men and women in uniform, you in the congress
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wrote america's security is a bipartisan priority. >> harnesses return by doing this to its rightful place in the drivers seat of funding america's national defense rather than remaining in the spectators seat of the budget control ask mindless automatic thoughts and i visit here today to pay my respects due to role models, german ordinary and ranking member smith. of the house armed services committee. the bipartisan nature of how you work together to put into practice senator vandenberg's call for collaboration when he said politics stops at the water's edge. so thank you both, i look forward to working with you in the house committee. >> number me briefly update you on key areas of progress in our national defense strategy. beginning with our first line of effort, lethality. we put american adversaries
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on notice. work with the secretary of state, secretary pompeo's diplomats or the us military is called the poor, it will be your longest and your worst day. you we are engaging in long-overdue recapitalization of our nuclear deterrence and to keep it safe and secure and we are recognizing that the stability of nuclear deterrence has brought over 60 years, we are now investing keep our triad and ensuring as president reagan stated in his 1984 state of the union address, that a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought. concurrently we are dealing with dennis duplessis violation of the inf treaty. as nato secretary-general oldenburg noted. the united states is in full compliance with this obligation, there are no new us missiles in europe but there are new russian missiles. a treaty that is respected by only one side and not be
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effective and will not keep us safe. so we will re-energize our arms control efforts whether the onus is on russia. this is further highlighted by russian contents and dismissal of their 2003 agreement with ukraine that allowed both russian and ukrainian shifts free passage to the first break an agreement brazenly violated weekend. >> regarding the ground combat forces that we had going backto our national defense strategy , our close combat lethality task force is integrating human and technological factors to ensure our close combat units never enter a fair fight. i bring this up because somewhere around 85 percent of our casualties since 1945 have been taken in our close combat infantry units.
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they deserve every advantage that we can give them. increase reduction of critical munitions procuring advanced fighter jets increasing our fleet size that we are making ourselves more legal while supporting a stable and efficient industrial base . to our allies who join us here today, we value you and we do not take you for granted. accordingly, our second line of effort in the department of defense is that we pursue strengthening our alliances because history is clear, nations with allied drive. america's alliances are a durable asymmetric advantage that no competitor in the world can match. unlike other nations, we don't buy friends, we burn them. we do not see vassal states, we want empowered partners to invest in their own sovereignty and determine their own destiny.
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>> in europe, our nato alliance represents the earth's economic and military might. >> asked the president trumps unrelenting call in 2017, allies boosted defense budgets by a combined 5.2 percent. the biggest increase in a quarter-century. combined our 20 native nato allies have increasedspending by $41 billion in the past two years . >> .. while building new partnerships. from this year's historic visit of uss world vincent. vietnam to our deepening security cooperation with india. it shows the growing trust between the world two largest democracies among both pacific powers.
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in korea, our diplomats speak from a position of unquestioned strength. they endeavor to achieve the complete, verified deprivation of north korea. in the mideast, defeat isis coalition is now 79 nations organizations working to ensure the enduring defeat of isis, which is now down to less than 2% of its original geographic fate. in afghanistan, trump's decision to change the game for the first time in 17 years, the united nations believes we have reason for hope for peace. afghan troops are in the lead of the fight. they are taking hard casualties. nato in the community are stepping up, their commitments and the taliban may actually not be open for the first time for sincere talks about peace. we'll see. in our own fortunate hemisphere from ottawa to mexico city, aris and santiago, we see increasing democracy and despite
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economic headwinds and national crime, opportunities for the americas to become a region of increasing political and economic stability. our third line of effort, we continue a range of reform. last month, we completed our first ever consolidated financial audit and department of defense history. it covers $2.7 trillion in assets. we conducted it to find problems. i intended to find problems, i would have disappointed had we not. we will embrace the findings and we will take corrective action on a host of revealed issues. we intend to uphold the trust of the american taxpayers and congress. turning out to our technology and innovation investments as
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adversaries increase, the number and sophistication of ballistic crews and hypersonic missiles, when rogue state pursuit missile capabilities that threaten our homeland here, we are advancing the next generation of missile defense to protect the united states and our allies and partners. recent back-to-back successful test of our self-defense system, show we can our defense and adaptation of our technology. while much remains to be done, we are reclaiming our mental technological enterprise and signaling our determination to achieve more here in space, and hypersonic's and artificial intelligence. the work goes on and change tactics heightening and corporation of cyber operations, training and readiness, equipment maintenance. america's lawyers rehearsed a grim game from the sea floor to outer space.
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thanks to president trump and our congress, we have begun to arrest the erosion of our competitive advantage. without sustained predictable funding, the gains we've made will fade. our investment will never realize their full potential. i share responsibility with congress that not just the secretary of defense but the secretary after next. as for military advantages necessary to deter conflict or when if we must fight. history is on confused as to what happens when a democracy permits its strength to win. we see it in our own history. korea, 1950. soldiers from task force smith went into battle against enemy tanks, obsolete bazookas and capable of knocking out the targets. we might believe this could never happen in our time, but at the same america that defeated the third right of world war ii, good forget in just five years the hard learned lessons, so can we and our generation.
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historian wrote, the lesson of korea is that it happened. u.s. navy has not lost a ship to enemy action since 1944. the u.s. air force is held superiority since 1945. it is humorous to think that can't change. we have no preordained right to victory on the battlefield. our will to win is not more important than our will to prepare to win. this includes war finding excellence from our military, steady predictable funding from congress and engaged support from our most innovative industry leaders including silicon valley. options such commitment, will pay the cost. congress own national event strategy report good, i quote, the cost will not be measured in abstract concepts like interne internet -- international stability and global order.
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it will be measured in american lives. so when we measure defense spending, we must realize his door closed as a share of both the federal budget and our nationally economy. 1957, defense spending was 52% of the federal budget. in 2017, it was 15%. defense spending today account for 3% of americans gross domestic product. fiscal solvency and strategically solvency, we say can coexist. they make clear in a recent our top priority is the troops. cutting defense will not close the deficit and i would suggest doing so would be a disservice to our troops and the american people they serve and protect. we all know here today, america can afford survival.
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we are in an era of great power competition but as president trump said, competition does not mean hostility, nor does it inevitably lead to conflict. it won't if we continue to invest in strength. this is true of america's relationship with china. we seek a constructive result relationship with beijing. we do not accept predatory economic practices or course of smaller states. no one nation can on his own, change the international order or detail of their diplomatic, economic or security decisions. alongside our allies and partners, we will defend our interests, show respect for other nations sovereignty, and uphold our values we exercise what has been recently turned as constructive vigilance. we are americans. we are not spectators and we --
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in the art of history. we make history. reagan said it best, i do not believe he said, no matter what we do. i do believe in a fate that will be follows if we do nothing. america will sustain our military warrior because because we must. congress and industry partners, we will old the line and we will send a simple message to any potential adversary. not today, your military cannot when it so don't even try it. certainly, our world is a wash in change. things last. some things are permanent and the fighting faith of your military is one of them. president reagan noted that in his first inaugural address in the story of a young barbara from falls wisconsin, this very truth. private martin, he served the rainbow is a division. in world war i. iran was needed to convey a message during an assault, he
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did not hesitate. when his brother shoulders found his body later, they recovered a bloodstained diary and in, wa was -- my pledge, i will work, i will sacrifice and i will and/or. i will fight cheerfully into my utmost as if the issue of the whole struggle dependent on me. so private died, fought and died a century ago. but that same fighting faith indoors and must indoor and our time if our normal experiment democracy is to endure. back to those combat infantry units i mentioned before. consider the latin root of infantry. young soldier, infant soldier. young soldier, consider we take over 80% of our casualties in the ranks and yet they volunteer for the military, they volunteer for the infantry knowing that. they've grown up with the war in
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afghanistan and iraq, they choose to serve anyway. they come from america, every corner as living, breathing examples of the unit out of many one. they pulled together. these high-spirited, ran boxes and people look past the hot political rhetoric of our day and voluntarily sign up for a blank check, payable to chi to you with their very lives. if we can be complicated in our part and steadfast in our purpose as our troops, we will do just fine and remain, the shining city on a hill. thank you very much. [applause] [applause]
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>> he agreed to spend a few minutes with our good friends from fox news. >> thank you very much. it's an honor to be here. thanks for doing this. i wrote a number of things down from your opening remarks. one of them was, the message we love you, to members of the press and members of congress. that's a diplomat -- different message than referred sometimes. we also noted your remarks about the 41st president. the memories about him. with the passing of president bush, the country lost the last
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cold war president. one president reagan and then president bush, by communism around the world, really changed the trajectory of the world. now, as you mentioned in your opening remarks, russia is again, aggressive, under flat me up, most recently in ukraine, fired on the ships and capturing those sailors. if i'm mistaken, you didn't move after that happened. how can the u.s., what can the u.s. do to deter russia's behavior in this environment? >> if this is a very complex situation, because mr. putin has clearly a slow learner. he is not recognizing that what he is doing is actually creating the animosity against his peop people. he's not acting in the best interest of the russian people. he is actually causing nato to
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rearm and strengthen the democracy stance. the unified stance of all the democracy together. we are joined here today by several members of the nato alliance, including the minister of defense. he and i were in the force of his country last year alongside troops from a number of nato nations and what we are seeing do, with his ripping of of international agreements, violating in the street this last week, a joint statement, agreement between ukraine and russia, we are dealing with someone that we simple he cannot trust. >> have the relationship worsened? >> there is no doubt. the relationship has worsened, he tried again to dip around in our elections this last month. we are seeing a continued effort along those lines. so russia doesn't speak but one voice, we find that russia on
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the surface, tries to make certain, very deceitful statements. they won't stick. their actions speak better than words. it has worsened the relationship. >> roundabout around the world but following up on this, they tried again, to around in our elections this past time. why did you feel like the u.s. had to go on the offense to battle russia and china in cyber? has the threat increased significantly? >> i don't know that the threat has increased, it just continued efforts to try to subvert democratic processes that must be defended. >> and go on to do that? >> we will do whatever is necessary to defend them. >> i'm going to bounce around the world. if we can. talk about hotspots and then talk about as you mentioned, readiness for military.
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today, secondary pompeo released a statement saying iran has test launched a missile with multiple independent airheads. what can you tell us about this launch and how would you eat the threat from iran, compared to the threat from north korea? >> iran is an interesting case of a regime that does not care for the best interest of their people. they are a revolutionary cause at that level. they take actions, constant actions, to put their people in worst positions. the threat from iran multi faceted. certainly what they have done, with this launch, is violated the sense of the united nations security council resolution. they told them not to do these kind of launches. it shows that our best efforts to try to talk them out of their aggressive supportive terrorism,
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is probably going to be as unsuccessful as the one, to stop them from launching missiles and right now, the strategic level of threat from iran is less worldwide than korea's but it is certainly significant, reasonably and it could grow beyond that if it's not that with. >> it is significant? >> yes. >> clearly this administration has changed direction when it comes to iran on foreign policy focus from the last administration. some of the critics say maybe too far. "wall street journal" today, reported that the cia has medium to high confidence that saudi conference personally targeted specialty. the journalist and probably ordered his death. you agree with that? >> first, when it comes to iran, that is a factor we are going to have to deal with.
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it is best that with the medically, or diplomatic means don't work. the more we can unite everyone to confront iran, we have to do so. when it comes to the khashoggi marketer, we have every expectation that whoever was involved in this, whether directly involved or directing the murder, is going to be held to account. that is our country's expectation. we see that as not in any way, reducing the strategic imperative to work together as many nations as possible not to keep iran, keep their mischief, their murderous mischief under control, to reduce it, roll it back, we know what they do to the proxies, and the been on, used scene with they've done. in syria to keep the murderer in power. he would not be in power today,
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were it not for the iranian regime. we do not have issues with the iranian people. what we're going to have to do is figure a way to have these two trust, accountability for khashoggi's murder and unified confrontation against iran's mischief, their terrorism, their murder, they may have. keep those two lines of effort, unrelenting. we want to know what happened by who all was engaged khashoggi but at the same time, we cannot deny the threat that iran poses to all civilized nations. >> some people look at the image, the crown prince giving a high five to flat amir putin at the g20 and had a real problem with it. just looking at the political implementation of that. basically, you are saying that saudi arabia's help, with u.s. when it comes to iran, takes precedence right now?
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>> i don't think there is a presidents. accountability for the murder of khashoggi stands alone. it is distinct from any other factors going on. however, it is integral to our relationship with saudi. right now, we do not have a smoking gun. i have accepted the last 24 hours, i have seen all the intelligence we have. we do not have a smoking gun that the crown prince was involved. we certainly need to continue to explore everyone or explore all aspects of the murder and find anyone who is involved. that should not in any way, swayed us from basically confronting iran.
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>> moving on. what happened if congress passes legislation to halt u.s. military involvement in yemen? >> i don't like speculating on congress. i'll wait -- i have another opportunity coming up in the house of representatives. >> you're going to make the case? >> i'm going to make the case that we need to act on best interest. that includes standing up for the principles we believe in. that includes freedom of the press, i might add. as a representative sitting here, and an admired one, i would tell you that we do not find standing up for our values in any way inconsistent with providing the production of this country. >> afghanistan. this week, unfortunately, he lost five soldiers in afghanistan. seventy-nine wounded. do you really believe that the taliban has an incentive to sit down for peace talks? you've dropped more bombs in afghanistan then you have just in recent weeks, and more than a decade. are you trying to on the taliban
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to the peace table? >> the taliban have made very clear that the lives of the afghan people are of no interest to them. they know they cannot when it, at least that's been there supposition. that's why they use bombs. you can't use the ballot box, you have to try to terrorize people. into dominating them. so we are going to stand with the 41 nations, the largest wartime coalition in modern history, is the nato led campaign in afghanistan. down to 39 nations when we came in, two nations have joined. by the way, both muslim nation. we have donations, 70 of them. they are committed to this effort, i will tell you that if we leave, 20 of the most dangerous terrorist groups in the world, centered in that region, we walk out of there,
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then we know what will happen. our intelligence services are very specific that we will be under attack in a number of years. >> are you facing pressure to wind up the u.s. mission? >> we are facing pressure right now on the taliban. that's our goal, our goal is to reconcile, we don't have ambassador, a very strong ambassador. he's in charge of the reconciliation effort. we're going to do our best to drive this to a political resolution in order to end it. it's gone on now for -- when you look at 1979, the year i first sailed into mideast waters, that's the year that the soviet union invaded afghanistan and turned the country upset on. we're going to have to try to end this will -- war in 40 years is enough. it's time to end it. get the people of afghanistan back on the right track. it's going to take regional he help, it's going to take the un
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help, for the first time, that i can ever recall, a week ago, the un representative there said he sees real hope for peace. first time we've ever heard that part. >> that's what winning looks like? >> winning goes back to secretary clinton. she was the secretary of state, she laid out three conditions to the taliban, break without al qaeda, that i checked the united states and other countries, quit killing afghan people and lift by the constitution. if you went with your party, platform, then, on those are the three starting points for how we reconcile and bring this war to an end. >> imagined latin america, the refugee situation from that venezuela, is now one of the worst in the world. his venezuela continues to spiral, as it is, downward, you foresee the u.s. having to do
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something that? >> first of all, we are doing something there. when you look back in the last year, it's rough year for democracy for some people's calculations. but not in our emissary. democracy is actually spreading, we have three countries, cuba, nicaragua, venezuela were living in the past. they are not going the right direction. the rest of the hemisphere, from canada to the tip of argentina, is going the right direction. those countries are very concerned in that region of what's going on in venezuela. it is tragic, again, it's what happens when you have in your responsible, desperate, leading the country to ruin. i think what we should do is work i, with and through with our latin american allies and stabilize this situation right now. you'll see that we have a u.s. naval ship from hospital ship, it's down there providing medical aid.
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to many of the refugees. we are doing our best to dramatically and through humanitarian aid but ultimately, this regime is going to have to go and it's up to the businesswomen people, it's up to the eternal states in the area to help expedite that. bring the country back to a more prosperous and positive future. >> you've been asked to cut the defense budget by 5%. seven under 16 billion-dollar defense budget. first, can you do it? second, what effect, if you do it, problems like those that led to many of the accidents involving aging equipment? >> this is the normal give and take a building the president's budget. this is not a decision. this is where the president is trying to sort out priorities. i would just, as i mentioned, chairman thornberry and -- were
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they -- the house and senate committees right now, where they are right now. i would tell you that the issue is in play. i'll give my advice to the president, i owe him the curse courtesy of that in private before i speak about it publicly. >> you would say it's challenging? >> it should be challenging. we don't want to spend any money in excess is of what is needed on our defense. at the same time, this is not an arena where we can calculate so precisely that i think we can take chances either. we've got to make certain, restore america's strength. you know and i know that president trump's platform from the beginning. it's up to me to make the logical argument about with the president's subvention should look like from management and budget to congress. the congress under their
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constitutional responsibility will take our input on board. but it's again, remember ladies and gentlemen, the worst form of government, this is what it looks like in the real world. as we push it forward. i'm optimistic that the at the end of the day, we will have what we need to keep our country safe. >> you concerned that with the force that you have today, that you could lose a war with russia or china? >> not in the least. my goal is to deter it and if the diplomat time. you'll know what my technical job description is. to run the department of defense, military operations, that sort of thing. give the president advice, work with allies. my real job description, secretary, when you are there, i think my real job description is how do you keep the peace? one more year, one more month, one more week, one more day, one
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more hour so the diplomats can work their magic. our allies can work with us and we keep another tragedy of war from making out. >> there's a lot of questions about the magic that is or is not working with north korea. before this form as your, north korea launched its third icbm, ballistic missile. the national security advisor told me right here on this stage, the threat was increasing every day. it is your assessment of north korea now as we get word of building long-range missiles and working on its nuclear program, continues? >> first of all, i think if you look at one year ago, as you summed it up very well, it was going anywhere but good. following the singapore discussion, between kim and president trump, is now been shown to be clearly the
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diplomats hands. we have been able to actually reduce some of our exercises as insincere measure to say we want the diplomats to succeed, none of us thought this would be easy, there would be automatic, it would follow a script. we are going to have to roll of our sleeves and keep that up. we got a lot of allies with us. as you know, thanks to the administration, we have three unanimous, united nations security council resolutions imposing sanctions on north korea. life is not good there. yes, their crime moves away, the work around them. but the bottom line is, if they won up from the resolution sanctions, they are going to have to make progress. >> looking at the intel as you do, are you optimistic? >> i'm not paid to be optimistic or pessimistic. i made -- i maintain a military that is second to none. with the fervent hope we won't have to employ. i have no doubt about the
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outcome if we must. >> which country is more serious threat to the u.s.? china, russia or north korea? >> the way out of the got it, i've always admired her the way you do questions, by the way. after that in. it goes to the heart of the issue, he doesn't dance around with his own opinion. it goes straight to the issue. breakdown three ways. power, urgency, and will. ...
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>> think what that says about the urgency of thisissue in paris a . second, i would talk about power, raw power . when you look at russia and the cavalier use of force, but cavalier discussions of nuclear weapons, clearly russia needs to be dissuaded, deterred and going down a path that putin appears willing to go down. when you look at will, i've had several meetings with my chinese counterpart and there is no doubt in my mind that china wants to return to what it believes is its rightful place in the world as a great nation and i believe we are going to have to find ways to work with china, two nuclear armed superpowers, in a manner that when we step on each other's toes that may happen from time to time we have a way to manage those issues. and we are working quietly
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and i would say quite closely together, my chinese counterpart andmyself , secretary pompeo and the state counselor yang to craft that way ahead.we are looking for cooperation where we can, confront them where we must but it is not our desire to end up in that situation. it's to find a way to manage a new relationship. i believe 10 years from now, 15 years from now what the trump administration will be most known for his we were able to create that new way to operate with china, we will be able to create a mechanism by which we could maneuver on the world stage economically, diplomatically, security wise to keep the peace and not stumble into a miscalculation. >> i only have a couple more minutes left so this is a bit of lightning around.
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will you sign the extension orders for the 16,000 active us duty troops at the southern us border? >> we've received since i left yesterday talk to our air force academy cadets and on my way out we proceed secretary nielsen's request, she's the secretary of homeland security. i will review it when i get back. some things have been done such as the engineer work to put in certain crowd control capabilities . we have troops and all law enforcement capacity that you know is prohibited under the u.s. constitution . remember here that, and i will review it and make certain what we're doing is appropriate for our troops and it is in the border patrol needs the help, of course we will provide it but look back to when president clinton deployed troops along the border in order to maintain control over immigration.
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when president bush put them there, the longest duration deployment of federal troops on the border were under president obama, seven years they will were deployed there. we will look at it, if there's an issue that requires the department of defense support for the commissioner of border patrol, and of course we will provide but we will stay strictly within the constitution, strictly within our laws and the law enforcement functions will be carried out by the appropriate people. either the border patrol or us marshals or other federal police, but not by us military. >> last thing, the president was asked in an interview whether he was going to fire you, whether you were going to leave. first he called you sort of a democrat and he saideverybody leaves, people leave washington but you have a good relationship . do you have any plans to
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leave the administration soon? >> if i did brett, you wouldn't be the one to know but let me explain something. when the president of the united states, republican or democrat, male, female, none of that matters. when the president and i've never met mistertrump , i met him as president elect when he called me back for a job interview. when the president asks you to do something in america, you just do it. just do it. don't get all caught up in and wishing and wondering and saying to do or not to do or whatever, just do it. get up, go up, do your jobto the best of your ability. uphold the constitution . the president your best military advice, in my case but we've got to get back to the point where service in this country is something you do.
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to tell you the truth, the only reason i'm back in this low-paying outfit is because i love the troops, because i learned to hate minefields at age 21 but i love guys so valiant they would go through looking forsomething they didn't want to find , they didn't want their buddy behind them to step on it and the other reason is i got a love affair with the u.s. constitution and i'll just leave it at that . >> let's leave it at that. [applause] >> obviously there is no national draft, this is the last thing. there's fewer than half of one percent of americans currently serve in the us military. if you were the nine percent have ever served so many americans don't have a close connection at all with someone who is serving or has served so the civilian military divide is tangible.
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how do you get people who don't have a connection to buy-in? is not a concern for you? >> it is a concern. i think many of us when the draft developed such a poor reputation for whatever reason, vietnam and we got rid of it, many of us in those days wondered when this turned out to be very good for the military and the all volunteer, described as the all recruited, vigorous recruiting that goes on military, it's been very good. we have all volunteer there but it would end up being good for the republic? would it divorce us from the body politic when people make decisions smog in the fact that none of their family members would be in harm's way? we can't hide from the elephant in the room .
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i think on a broader level, we can get back to a fundamental friendliness with one another as americans if we can rediscover a respect for each other as fellow americans, even if we have different ideas about how we take the country forward. we probably have big differences about where we want to go, ultimately so if we can create a society in which respect and friendliness is the best work that we all have when we meet each other, whether it be in our school districts or public life or private life, if we can get back to that, then the military is part of that society representing the most selfless who literally will go in harm's way for us, will not seem alien anymore. they will seem like your own brothers and sisters. at that point whether they belong to your family or your immediate family or your larger american family, we can keep this thing together
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that we call america and it's one great big experiment . but it's noble work even if it's hard work and we better all go back to finding a way to embrace one another and in the military, we're not that special. we are simply patriots who decide this is the way we pay our dues. if you want to take something out, you want economic opportunity, your kids to go to college, you've got to put something into it and there's 100 different ways to serve but the military, the most selfless has got to remain embraced by the american people whether you have a number in the military or you do not but i do very much. >> thank you for your service to the country and thank you for this and i'd love to have you on special report sometimes. >>. [applause] >>. [applause]
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